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How do I make a matcen spawn Vertigo robots?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:09 pm
by Alter-Fox
In dle-xp, how do I make a matcen spawn robots from D2: Vertigo? The vertigo robots aren't on the list of robots for the matcen.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:36 pm
by Aus-RED-5
When you started creating the lvl. Did you select to create a D2 Vertigo mission?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:48 pm
by karx11erx
I don't think you can create such matcens, regardless of mission type. The way Descent 2 handles matcen robot list doesn't allow for robot ids > 64, which prohibits all Vertigo robots. I created a work around in D2X-XL, and it might work like "first Vertigo robot id + matcen robot id" (so to have a matcen create Vertigo robots of the kind with the smallest Vertigo robot id, set it to produce the standard robot with id 0), but I am not entirely sure of that off the top of my head.

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:58 am
by Alter-Fox
I'm building one (actually several) D2X-XL levels, and in the one I'm referring to, I have two matcens, both of which spawn Defense Robots and TRN Racers. Today, one of the matcens started spawning Smelter IIs, Fiddlers, and Xenophobes along with one of each type of robot the matcen originally spawned. The other one stayed the same. The really wierd thing was I had, just before, played the beginning of vertigo level 8, and those were the only three vertigo robots I faced in level 8 as well.

BTW Diedel - the original vertigo mission had lots of matcens that spawned vertigo robots. I took a look in dle-xp at the ones in level 8 which spawned Fiddlers and Xenophobes, and they had every D2 robot selected, plus the advanced lifter. I took a look at the ones in level 15, which spawned quite a few more types, and their robot list was completely empty.

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:49 pm
by pokeman7452
D2 had a reputation for leaking HXM robot modifications between missions. I remember building a level and giving the PESTs and PIGs phoenix and omega, then without quitting, I started counterstrike lvl 1. The robot modifications stayed! It was impossible. From what happened to you, I am guessing the dev team did something along the lines of replacing an unused robot's id with a vertigo robot. That HXM modification just stayed.

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:50 pm
by Alter-Fox
What happened to me was similar to another bug I found in the dos version of D2. When I played level 24, reached the alien 2 boss, it fired at least one earthshaker missile at me, and then, right after that, if I played level 4, one of the Lou Guards in the Red Fatty Boss's arena would always fire one Earthshaker, and then it would start firing homing missiles. At first I thought it was the Red Fatty Boss that fired the earthshaker, but then I actually saw the Lou Guard fire it.

Notice irregularities in capitalization of names. :)